PDA

View Full Version : Ultimate DAW monitor?



Heuristic
06-04-2009, 10:17 AM
I'd prefer if it was flat, but check this out...

http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/04/nec-crv43-43-inches-of-curve-on-sale-july/

I think I'll wait for the price to drop a little!

D
06-04-2009, 10:21 AM
I'll stick with my Dell 3007WFP-HC, and it's superior 2560x1600 resolution. In the same space as that ugly monstrosity, I can fit two of them. No, they won't be curved. Aw.

Looking forward, however, I am sure that the price will eventually come down (think about 8-10 years for this puppy), and the resolution will improve.

TAFKAT
06-04-2009, 11:04 AM
Now thats very , very cool..

Reminds me of that scam site a few years back , L-Computers , that had the Canyon Displays, as well as some "Super Computers" and notebooks that were impossibly spec'ed.

I managed to find some of the old website archived Here (http://www2.fluffyspider.com.au/news/industry/archive/www.go-l.com/monitors/grand_canyon/features/index.htm)

BTW for those that missed the whole L-Computer scam, it was IMO the best layed out specialist PC site I had ever seen , shame it was a total sham , but I admit I learned a lot how easily the public can be duped.

These guys had a whole range of "proprietary" technologies that actually didn't exist , they simply coined all of these tech sounding buzz words, but then backed them up with pages of tech jargon with great graphics, icons, etc , just like Apple... LOL, "PuRam-Go™/PuRaid™ Ultra-Portable High-Speed Solid State Drive Technology" was one of them.

Found out some interesting stock info Here (http://ezinearticles.com/?High-Flying-Stock:-L-International-Computers,-Inc.-The-Next-DELL?&id=290890)

And some comment on the fallout of the scam Here (http://gizmodo.com/023483/liebermanngo+l-computers-kaput)

It was the best hyperbolic reality distortion fielded Anti Mac site on the web at the time , its a shame the whole site isn't archived somewhere , it was a hoot..

They may have been a scam, but they sure had some ideas way ahead of their time..

Daryl
06-04-2009, 12:00 PM
The reason I don't have two monitors next to each other is that I hate looking down the crack. Well, as far as computer monitors are concerned anyway.......!

I've been thinking about one of these (http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-trio24w.asp), but the cost is just a bit too high ATM.

D

D
06-04-2009, 12:57 PM
That's the big drawback of multiple monitor systems: the crack, plus the fact that only one of the screens is treated as primary. Secondary screens have limitations.

This is the reason I bought the Dell (on sale, of course). The problem with 1200 vertical resolution: it's not enough. After working with 1600 pixels of vertical res, you understand why multiple monitors aren't so great. Sure you can stack them, but then you're going to have neck cramps all the time.

TAFKAT
06-04-2009, 05:42 PM
I've been thinking about one of these (http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-trio24w.asp), but the cost is just a bit too high ATM.

D

Daryl,

That rig is simply a mounting system, you can use any 3 monitors to achieve the same thing. I have looked at that in the past.

You still have the cracks in the middle , oh , and of course you need the capability to run 3 LCD's.

FWIW, I am actually someone who much prefers separate multiple monitors , arrange window on one screen, mixer, plugin GUI's on the second, Vid on a 3rd , etc, and never shall the 2/3 meet , not really a fan of having it all on one large 30"+ standard wide screens, but that NEC thing would suit me to the ground, as the resolution aspect ration is more to what I am accustomed to.

Daryl
06-04-2009, 07:50 PM
Daryl,

That rig is simply a mounting system, you can use any 3 monitors to achieve the same thing. I have looked at that in the past.
It seems much cheaper though than three screens and a mounting. In fact in the UK I can't even get a triple mount for 24" screens.



You still have the cracks in the middle , oh , and of course you need the capability to run 3 LCD's.
Well the cracks are either side of the middle and my project would be in exactly the same place as it is in my current set-up. In the middle....!



FWIW, I am actually someone who much prefers separate multiple monitors , arrange window on one screen, mixer, plugin GUI's on the second, Vid on a 3rd , etc, and never shall the 2/3 meet , not really a fan of having it all on one large 30"+ standard wide screens, but that NEC thing would suit me to the ground, as the resolution aspect ration is more to what I am accustomed to.

My plan with the triple set-up is:

Left monitor - Mixer and plugs, if necessary
Middle monitor - Project
Right monitor - MIR
Wall hung TV - video

This assumes that I get another PC for MIR, which gets me round the need to have two graphics cards in the DAW PC (one and the Intensity will do).

D

kdm
06-04-2009, 08:09 PM
Hmm - the NEC is 2880x900 - wonder how a graphics card would handle it to get the width without compressing height. Looks cool. Wonder how the curve is to look at for 14 hours straight.

The Zenview to me looks like three 17" screens, not 3x24. The diagonal of 42" is less than my setup (1x24, 2x17 on each side).

I pretty much run what Daryl is planning (except mixer/plugs are on the right). At some point I wouldn't mind upgrading my center screen to a 30 and the sides to 24". Gotta say, a project window on a 30 with that bump up in resolution is a beautiful thing. 24" is great, but 30 is another ballgame.

Sound Drifter
06-04-2009, 10:19 PM
Shame it is so deep. It's gotta be a DLP type display. I wonder how many projectors are in that box.

bmdaugherty
06-04-2009, 11:48 PM
I just like the idea because it presents an entirely different acoustical surface. No more flat reflective plain between you and your monitors!!!! One tough problem finally has a solution.

I cant wait for them to fall in price. I also like the fact that it is one big primary display. Very cool.

Daryl
06-05-2009, 06:10 AM
Hmm - the NEC is 2880x900 - wonder how a graphics card would handle it to get the width without compressing height. Looks cool. Wonder how the curve is to look at for 14 hours straight.
I think that with such a wide screen, and sitting so close, it would need to be curved for me to be able to focus properly.



The Zenview to me looks like three 17" screens, not 3x24. The diagonal of 42" is less than my setup (1x24, 2x17 on each side).
I think that that is just a typo on the site. Elementary maths tells me that the actual diagonal would have to be around 62.7", not 42.7". However, I'll email them and ask.



I pretty much run what Daryl is planning (except mixer/plugs are on the right). At some point I wouldn't mind upgrading my center screen to a 30 and the sides to 24". Gotta say, a project window on a 30 with that bump up in resolution is a beautiful thing. 24" is great, but 30 is another ballgame.
I find that I never run out of horizontal space. It's always the vertical where I could use more room. However, I'm, happy with 24" for the project, and don't think that 30" would be any better for me. If I were to run the huge monitor (getting back on topic) I would probably still only use the middle part for the project.

D

kdm
06-05-2009, 12:25 PM
I find that I never run out of horizontal space. It's always the vertical where I could use more room. However, I'm, happy with 24" for the project, and don't think that 30" would be any better for me. If I were to run the huge monitor (getting back on topic) I would probably still only use the middle part for the project.

D

Same conclusion for me as well - horizontal seems wide enough (scrolling horizontally gets old), and I stay rather center-focused as well - I can see how the curve would become a requirement on the larger monitor.

Vertically is where the 30" would seem to pick up some advantages with the higher resolution at 2560x1600 vs. 1920x1200 for the 24s - 25% more vertical content. But, bigger isn't always better for everyone's workflow - just depends on what you need to see most. Cheaper to stick to 24's anyway.

bmdaugherty
06-06-2009, 10:50 AM
See I go for the highest res in the lowest size. I am using 2 @ 1920x1080 but they are only 20". The beauty of them is that they are really short so that it does not obscure the monitors and stereo image as much. It also makes mirroring to an lcd tv really easy because they are 1080p monitors.

The scrolling is no sweat for me, plus I have several track heights available as key commands.

Like I said, the curve is the interesting thing here. I am sure other sizes will quickly make their way to the market. I wonder how they make your room sound when compared to flat monitors lined up...

TerryG
06-06-2009, 11:02 AM
... I wonder how they make your room sound when compared to flat monitors lined up...
I can imagine receiving parabolic audio reflections would be less than ideal... unless you treated it is as a hearing aid for slapback. :wink:

TAFKAT
06-06-2009, 07:08 PM
See I go for the highest res in the lowest size. I am using 2 @ 1920x1080 but they are only 20"

Hey,

What are the actual LCD's, can't say I have ever come across 20" widescreens with that resolution spec.

I agree with you that smaller with higher res would suit a lot of clients for all of the reasons you listed above..

bmdaugherty
06-07-2009, 12:49 AM
Hey sorry, it's actually 21.5", but it's a benq E2200HD. They are pretty cheap at $229 a pop. Plus you order straight from the manufacturer and the shipping is free. Color shift isn't bad.