Great - the snap bug is NOT fixed

[RiffWraith]

"We are still investigating this issue. This one is very hard to reproduce. Without knowing the "why" this happens on some systems, we cannot fix it. But we do our best.

Gr,

Chris"

This sounds to me like the, "oh well, we tried but can't. Oh well."

What it is to me is bullshit. How a major player in the sequencing world can stand by and let this go is beyond me.

I have said before that i feel that SB simply does not care. Every time I see posts by Chris, my feelings are confirmed.

[BJF]

I think the major problem is they've released 5 without fixing 4, just to make money.

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[TAFKAT]

Hey Riff,

Sorry to hear all the effort you went to reporting the issue fell on deaf ears.

Looks like it stays on the se4/seq5 laundry list... :eusa_doh:

Should we start a new thread for seq5 bugs and make a note whther it has been carried over from seq4

[BJF]

Should we start a new thread for seq5 bugs and make a note whther it has been carried over from seq4
Yes, I think that this is a good idea. Would be interesting to compare them. (I think ctrl+c will be your friend on this one...)

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[The Guru]

I know I'm being Mr. Negative again, but why is anyone surprised?:eusa_wall::eusa_wall::eusa_wall:

See how many issues from SX3 got carried to C4 and are still there. They said they would be fixed when they cancelled the last SX3 update, but had no intention of keeping that promise. Now, history is repeating itself but everyone has developed amnesia due to a few "new features", which are SURELY broken in some way.

If you can't make music between SX3 and C4, you can't make music period and should give it all up. :098::iconyfcys3:

I'm buying a truss so I don't bust a gut laughing my ass off when all the old and new issues rear their ugly heads and everyone starts crying. :icon_yes:

[BJF]

See how many issues from SX3 got carried to C4 and are still there. They said they would be fixed when they cancelled the last SX3 update, but had no intention of keeping that promise. Now, history is repeating itself but everyone has developed amnesia due to a few "new features", which are SURELY broken in some way.

I totally agree. It seems like the same situation as media bay. They are just adding new half baked features, before fixing the old ones.

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[Daryl]

Riff, whilst I agree that this is an important bug, and should be fixed, someone has to prioritise such things, and I would have thought that the priorities would be things that manifest themselves on all systems, not just some.

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[resonator]

If you'd like to reproduce this on MORE systems, just try copying some events spanning over more than one track from one (inactive) project to another (active) project and see what happens. Most of time there will be glitches, at least on ANY system I've ever worked on.

Any seriously, I don't care on how many systems this occurs, if there's a problem with FUCKING COPY/PASTE, one of the most basic features of ANY application, this should have the highest priority.

[Daryl]

If you'd like to reproduce this on MORE systems, just try copying some events spanning over more than one track from one (inactive) project to another (active) project and see what happens. Most of time there will be glitches, at least on ANY system I've ever worked on.

Any seriously, I don't care on how many systems this occurs, if there's a problem with FUCKING COPY/PASTE, one of the most basic features of ANY application, this should have the highest priority.
There are many other problems with copy paste and there are some workarounds. Obviously we all have things that affect us, but the only things that can have the highest priority, IMO, are basic features that don't work on any system. Once you start getting into system specific it means that there is more to it than something just not working.

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[resonator]

But I think it actually ISN'T system dependent, it's "circumstance dependent", as zoom level, pointer, grouping and track-dependency play into this. It doesn't happen every time but it DOES happen on every system.

[RiffWraith]

Riff, whilst I agree that this is an important bug, and should be fixed, someone has to prioritise such things, and I would have thought that the priorities would be things that manifest themselves on all systems, not just some.

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I refuse to believe that this happens only on some systems. This is not a matter of say, there are visual artifacts when zooming in or out...IMO this is not something that is system-dependant. There are a small minority of people that can't repro this* - and I honestly believe they are either not doing something right, or doing something wrong.

Besides, anytime you run into something like this - even if it IS system-dependant - MUST take top priority. For ex, IMO, this is WAY more important than the solo bug.

*Beuermann says about 50% of people can't repro this; I say Beuermann is 100% full of that brown stuff.

Cheers.

[The Guru]

IIRC when trying this, the zoom setting had something to do with how easy it was to repro. I'm done with beta testing for the morons at Stone Mountain so I can't be arsed to try it.

[psvennevig]

I have some problems understanding the actual topic in this thread.

Is it about if the snap bug from Seq4 is carried over to C5?

If it is, I can say that I could reproduce in C4 but not in C5.

Pål

[RiffWraith]

IIRC when trying this, the zoom setting had something to do with how easy it was to repro.


Not exactly. Once you zoom past a certain point, zoom is automatically disabled. Is that what you meant?

[RiffWraith]

Is it about if the snap bug from Seq4 is carried over to C5?


Yes.

[The Guru]

Not exactly. Once you zoom past a certain point, zoom is automatically disabled. Is that what you meant?

No Jeff, it's been a while, but I thought it would happen more readily at a certain zoom range. I know what you're saying about snap being disabled at a certain point.

Do you have a link to that thread at c.net?

[RiffWraith]

...I thought it would happen more readily at a certain zoom range.

No.

http://www.jeffreyhayat.com/CubaseSnap2.avi

[The Guru]

First, a codec is required to play this file.

Second, I could reproduce it every time I tried. I woner if they aren't zooming in enough to make it show. You have to zoom WAY in to see the cursor move from the bar line.

[RiffWraith]

First, a codec is required to play this file.


The divx codec should work.


I woner if they aren't zooming in enough to make it show. You have to zoom WAY in to see the cursor move from the bar line.

Like I said, I really don't think that the people that don't see this are getting it and/or doing it properly. It's really easy to try it and not see it if you don't understand the concept.

Bruce said he can't repro this; on Thurs he promised me that this weekend he would do a screencam showing how he can't. I am holding him to that.

Cheers.

[psvennevig]

I'll test it again as well..

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[The Guru]

IMHO, you'll get more response to the video if you don't need to download codecs and can just watch the thing. :eusa_eh:

[RiffWraith]

IMHO, you'll get more response to the video if you don't need to download codecs and can just watch the thing. :eusa_eh:

There were plenty of responses. Almost everyone in that thread, and others commented. It would appear as you are the odd man out.

So, what format would YOU like it in?

[The Guru]

There were plenty of responses. Almost everyone in that thread, and others commented. It would appear as you are the odd man out.

So, what format would YOU like it in?

Anything that plays in WMP that doesn't require a download. :icon_yes:

[resonator]

www.videolan.org/vlc
It isn't very big, it doesn't install ANY codecs to your system and plays pretty much EVERY consumer codec you could think of. It runs on Mac, Win and Linux, and you don't even HAVE to install it, I think it even runs off a Memory Stick as well. Neatest player out there.

[The Guru]

www.videolan.org/vlc
It isn't very big, it doesn't install ANY codecs to your system and plays pretty much EVERY consumer codec you could think of. It runs on Mac, Win and Linux, and you don't even HAVE to install it, I think it even runs off a Memory Stick as well. Neatest player out there.

Windows has prevented the download due to security. :icon_eek3:

[RiffWraith]

Here:

http://www.jeffreyhayat.com/CubaseSnap2.wmv

[The Guru]

Not trying to bust balls, although it's my favorite past time, but the video is tiny. If I enlarge it, it's blurry to the point you can't see what's going on.

[psvennevig]

I've tested in C5, with high zoom.
I can confirm (on my system) that the snap bug (if it is a bug) still happens in C5.

However at normal zoom modes you never get the bug because it snaps correctly.

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[RiffWraith]

I've tested in C5, with high zoom.
I can confirm (on my system) that the snap bug (if it is a bug) still happens in C5.

However at normal zoom modes you never get the bug because it snaps correctly.

P

Hold on. If you are zoomed in too far, any attempts at a repro are useless as Cubase will not snap anyway after a certain point. At 'normal zoom modes' (not sure what normal is) you would see the bug if it is present in v5.

So, I am a tad confused by your post.

Hey - anyone that has v5 wanna snail mail me the disc? I'll sedn it right back - promise!!! :icon_cool:

[psvennevig]

ok...

.. so then I do not know what the bug really is.
I thought Cubase was supposed to snap all the time regardless of zoom.

In C5 I either get perfect snap, or no snap at all.
Does that clear anything??

Pål

[RiffWraith]

ok...

.. so then I do not know what the bug really is.
I thought Cubase was supposed to snap all the time regardless of zoom.

In C5 I either get perfect snap, or no snap at all.
Does that clear anything??

Pål

Maybe, not sure yet. I do appreciate you taking the time tho!

[The Guru]

Chris Moronmann said they couldn't repro it so I think it's still there. :icon_yes: If it is fixed, it's purely by accident. :icon_yes:

[RiffWraith]

Chris Moronmann


:rotfl:

[psvennevig]

The only reason I didn't laugh was because I was afraid my sides would split...

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