Drum Quantizing Methods

[shanabit]

Whats the TAB to Transient equivalent in Cubendo such thats in Protools and Logic? Im wanting to slice and dice things here and quantize to the grid post facto, delete overlaps, x-fade etc How are you doing this with drumkits?

[Animus]

Yeah I can't believe Tab to Transient hasn't been implemented yet. Would be a nice feature.

[Sam]

As Cubendo stands now my drum editing method is 'use protools'.

Until Cubendo gets proper grouping integrated with playlists and multitrack warping from the project window then 'Protools it is!' PT8's new playlists are f'ing amazing for drum editing....so simple yet so so damn useful....

[TAFKAT]

... Maybe Steini can implement a PTEK to help bridge the gap.. :D

[shanabit]

... Maybe Steini can implement a PTEK to help bridge the gap.. :D


Actually, if they did that, they would have to call it PTEK2 and would leave out the tab to transient

No one editing drums with cubendo??? :sulkoff:

[dada]

Well, Steinberg ( The Oracle ) at least said, that Multitrack Audio Quantize will come.

Anyhow, the good news is that we have decided not to stop the further development of future Cubase versions. And that non creative working tools a la "Beat Detective" are also in our focus.

They even tried to get something like elastic audio into V.5, but obviously someone messed up :
http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=817410#817410

... and good old Chris said :

When we would have a Cubase release with "everything", then there would be no Cubase release the next 10 years :icon_biggrin::eusa_whistle:

Main problem, as always: the internal priority system, the resource / product count disbalance
and the focus shifting towards bedroom composers ...
I really thought, they would come up with Drum Quantizing in V.4.0.1 !
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Hmmm ... maybe we soundengineers are a dying breed ...
:eusa_think:
Or Steinberg is just being realistic, in seeing, they can't compete with PT in the general recording department.
Whatever ... some fine day it will be there ...
and a year later it may be usable
:wink:

bye, Jan

[shanabit]

Simple Tab to transient would suffice

[dada]

No one editing drums with cubendo??? :sulkoff:
Well, as You already know, Paul and a few others do ... :icon_yes:
But even they would all welcome an integrated Multitrack Quantizing !
:wink:

bye, Jan

[dada]

Simple Tab to transient would suffice
Not here.
I would need, at least 70% of the BeatQuantizer featureset ...
:icon_cool:

bye, Jan

[D]

I generally edit my drum tracks the old fashioned way.

[resonator]

I quantize drums a lot. Seriously.

The method I used before I bought my first Digi003 (they break a lot, these bastards) was either using a (now defunct) Shareware called "BeatQuantizer", which basically emulates a lot of the BeatDetective functionality, or a method described in a PDF file I once found on the "unofficial" Nuendo forum. I tried to find the link to it, but I couldn't find it anymore, so I uploaded it here:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=PD5FGDAV

However, a huge time saver was having BeatQuantizer, since the creating of the guide track (that's a little painful inside of Cubase) is blazingly fast. Just get the markers ready, copy it to a "master track" and export slices which are then imported into Cubase onto a single track. Boom, all the points are there.

However, with C4.1 the very crucial "Delete Overlaps" went to hell. It's been broken and hasn't been fixed ever since. I tried to make people care for this function (which is more than useful for any kind of cutting-quantizing-crossfading operation) on the cubase.net forum to no avail, I couldn't even get anybody to do a repro. I tried to contact support, never got an answer. Ladies and Gents, I present to you - Steinberg support!

Now, I only use either BeatDetective or even ElasticAudio, works (and sounds) amazingly well, although BeatDetective's transient detection could use an upgrade, ElasticAudio's algos are way better at detecting hits.