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psvennevig
01-17-2009, 12:52 PM
Hi,

Would like to show some C5 screenshots.

Startup screen
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_startup_scr.png

To me it is a bliss that we finally can have a simple darker GUI also for Cubase. For the first time I can configure the GUI so it doesn't strain my eyes after long hours..
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_interface_darker_better.png

...the mixer (darker than C4)
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_mixer.png

GUI prefs
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_gui_adj_1.png

more...
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_gui_adj_2.png

More to come in next post..

Pål

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 01:24 PM
..more pics

Great new Virtual Keyboard. Can be the most important new feature the day you really need to do some notes and have no MIDI keyboard around..
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_virtual_keyboard.png

Cubase 5 have a lot of small new features/changes that I like, and I think can be a time saver for many of us. Here are some:

Pref. to sort plugins by Vendor
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_sort_plugs_bymaker.png

Batch export is great. My favorite is that when I export stems I can now have them automatically opened in a new project.
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_batch_2new_project.png

Another small thingy is great for people doing live recordings (concerts etc.)
A small new window called "Remaining Record Time"
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_remain_time.png


And last but not least, the great new REVerence convolution surround reverb.
It sounds really great, and have some really smart automation features.
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_reverence.png

Best,
Pål

Audiocave
01-17-2009, 01:59 PM
Very cool... is the convo UI that big? If you can, post some 192k mp3's so we can get a general idea of the quality of...

- The MeloBerg vocal pitching.. a half step would do for me, I only tune and will probably never go that far. But if you want to do some fake pitched triad harmonies go ahead.
- The "Yammy-Cher" thingy.
- The convo on a vocal.

As people here have said, Steiny didn't do a good job demoing that stuff beyond the "what".

Thanks.

shanabit
01-17-2009, 02:01 PM
I like the darker GUI, way less Fisher Price

HowlingUlf
01-17-2009, 02:04 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c3/Cubase_For_Atari.png

What's the diff? :eusa_eh:

No, really ... I think they've made a great job this time on Cubase. Admitedly not EVERYTHING to everybody's liking but that won't happen, not Steinberg and not Anybody else for that matter.

Nice bedspread to lay your tracks down to rest upon ... exquisite!!! :icon_cool:

kdm
01-17-2009, 02:07 PM
Thanks for posting the pics Pål! What is the i XML chunk in the export dialogue?

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 02:13 PM
Thanks for posting the pics Pål! What is the i XML chunk in the export dialogue?

The iXML chunk is the international standard for having more info in the wave/bwave file apart from the bwav header.
PT, Pyramix, etc. etc. etc. supports it.
It can contain all the tags from Mediabay for instance.

Like "actor, singer, instrument, reel, RED one storage, tc, director notes, slate notes"
etc.

P

zvenx
01-17-2009, 02:30 PM
Thanks for these.
Did they change the font or something? It looks more like samplitude to me and part of the reason why I dont' even look at samplitude as an alternative is I do not like how it looks. Or is it reaper?
rsp

Audiocave
01-17-2009, 02:56 PM
Thanks for these.
Did they change the font or something? It looks more like samplitude to me and part of the reason why I dont' even look at samplitude as an alternative is I do not like how it looks. Or is it reaper?
rsp

Reaper's looking much better these days :D ... but yeah. I think PT8 looks better than most though. Especially waveforms on small track heights and the "soft" track colors are very nice and real easy to look at. I spend less time coloring audio tracks in PTLE.

When I last demoed Samp everything just seemed too big. Especially in the mixer ... but that was awhile back.

shanabit
01-17-2009, 02:57 PM
Thanks for these.
Did they change the font or something? It looks more like samplitude to me and part of the reason why I dont' even look at samplitude as an alternative is I do not like how it looks. Or is it reaper?
rsp

Samp and Reaper are both skinnable BTW

zvenx
01-17-2009, 03:08 PM
ah didn't know samplitude was skinnable.
thanks..
And I usually am a big fan of Dave's work......but then again I was one of the few people who prefered cubase look to nuendo.
rsp

Audiocave
01-17-2009, 03:08 PM
Samp and Reaper are both skinnable BTW

Yes. Some of Reaper's skins can have a detrimental effect on graphic performance. Not a huge issue but it's there.

Not a deal-breaker in any way.

olamo
01-17-2009, 03:57 PM
Thanks for these.
Did they change the font or something? It looks more like samplitude to me and part of the reason why I dont' even look at samplitude as an alternative is I do not like how it looks. Or is it reaper?
rsp

More like Reaper I think, it's the contrast rounding the letters and the font itself.
When did you take your last look at Samplitude? :icon_cool:



Some of the new features looks nice though; for me the little unsignificant qwerty key thing is a blessing ( sketching at airports, on trains..)
But, then again.. how will it actually work?

Ola

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 04:00 PM
Here some audio and gfx for Variaudio and REVerence.
Sadly (I'm up in the mountains) I only had with me the samples shipped with C5. So the vocals is not something I have recorded.

Audio analysed before changing pitch
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_vari_dry.png


Audio sample dry
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/dry_org_voc.mp3

Audio altered pitch
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_vari_wet.png


Audio sample Variaudio
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/dry_variaudio.mp3

gfx reverence used
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_used_rev.png


Audio sample pitch corr and REVerence
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/wet_variaudio.mp3

The REVerence sounds amazing. To me clearly better than Altiverb.
Altiverb do have a lot more of IR responses though.
The snap automation is very smart in REVerence.

Best,
Pål

zvenx
01-17-2009, 04:03 PM
thanks for these again Pål. Actually the more I look at the GUI, once I get over the it looks different I dont like it. It actually looks cleaner and it is growing on me......
is there any mono non vocal audio that you have in the mountain? I am curious to know if the algorithm of vocal editing will work on bass guitar or maybe a sax or trumpet or something like that.
thanks
rsp

zvenx
01-17-2009, 04:28 PM
by the way, apart from the freedom of speech etc......and the whole tie off relaxed vibe, just the allowing of inclusion of attachments in this forum makes it a great place to be..
thanks mods/founder

rsp

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 05:10 PM
thanks for these again Pål. Actually the more I look at the GUI, once I get over the it looks different I dont like it. It actually looks cleaner and it is growing on me......
is there any mono non vocal audio that you have in the mountain? I am curious to know if the algorithm of vocal editing will work on bass guitar or maybe a sax or trumpet or something like that.
thanks
rsp

The GUI really grows on you. Dave have done a great job.

Heres a bass:

Dry
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_bass_vari_dry.png

Dry audio sample
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/bass_dry.mp3


Variaudio bass tune
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_bass_vari-wet.png

Wet audio sample
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/bass_vari.mp3


As you can hear. Variaudio sounds good.
The realtime pitch plugin is just as good.

Best,
Pål

SafeandSound
01-17-2009, 05:11 PM
Yes "Tie off " good summing up of the vibe over here, I bet you have cracked open the Red Stripes !

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 05:21 PM
Easy to forget small but important stuff.

We have been screaming for this for 5 years.
And easy way to convert to mono, stereo etc etc in the pool.

Here it is:
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_convert_options.png

/Pål

Audiocave
01-17-2009, 05:32 PM
Easy to forget small but important stuff.

We have been screaming for this for 5 years.
And easy way to convert to mono, stereo etc etc in the pool.

Here it is:
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_convert_options.png

/Pål

Cubase 4 has that already.

Thanks for the audio samples. Not too bad at all...

zvenx
01-17-2009, 05:45 PM
That's what I was thinking :-).. cause I do it all the time.
thanks for the bass Pål.... can't wait to get my hands on it....

rsp

Audiocave
01-17-2009, 06:00 PM
Curious... have a look through the credits screen and licensing acknowledgments and tell me if Melodyne shows up anywhere there. :icon_lol: Or post a screenshot.

I know they license Elastique' for warping, I've seen those credits. I wonder what else is there?

The dman
01-17-2009, 06:02 PM
The GUI really grows on you. Dave have done a great job.

Heres a bass:

Dry
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_bass_vari_dry.png

Dry audio sample
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/bass_dry.mp3


Variaudio bass tune
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_bass_vari-wet.png

Wet audio sample
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/bass_vari.mp3


As you can hear. Variaudio sounds good.
The realtime pitch plugin is just as good.

Best,
Pål

Thanks for doing this

To my ears the dry bass is a little brighter and on the processed bass I clearly hear a warbling going on almost chorusy. Did you set it to automatic or something?


It looks awesome

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 06:05 PM
Actually I think Steinberg pulled this off themselves.
Within the range Variaudio can work I think it sounds better than Melodyne.

Here's the credits:
http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_credits.png

/P

Audiocave
01-17-2009, 06:13 PM
No, (...well maybe they did but.. no, I meant the outside copyrights... that's the internal team...) there's actually a "Credits and Coyrights" menu under "Help" in version 4 and previous. If they licensed something from someone new like Melodyne it might show there.

They never mention Elastique per-se in literature but it's technology is in there.

http://theaudiocave.com/Jing/credits.png

... I wanted to see if it changed at all for 5.

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 06:17 PM
Nope...

http://ftp1.zenithstudio.com/pas2/pas/webgfx/c5/c5_creds.png

P

Audiocave
01-17-2009, 06:31 PM
Thanks. So their using MPEX, Elastique or they rolled their own. Interesting though because of the new "analyzation" of audio that didn't happen before. I'm really curious now.

I wonder if Melodyn might license some older or limited versions of it's tech on the condition that it not be made public and hurt their sales?

psvennevig
01-17-2009, 06:52 PM
There are some new devs. responsible for it I think.
There's loads of new cool stuff in C5.

P

The Guru
01-17-2009, 07:01 PM
Thanks. So their using MPEX, Elastique or they rolled their own. Interesting though because of the new "analyzation" of audio that didn't happen before. I'm really curious now.

I wonder if Melodyn might license some older or limited versions of it's tech on the condition that it not be made public and hurt their sales?

Chris B. said it isn't licensed from Melodyne, it's a Yamaha product, IIRC.

zvenx
01-17-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks for doing this

To my ears the dry bass is a little brighter and on the processed bass I clearly hear a warbling going on almost chorusy. Did you set it to automatic or something?


It looks awesome



I think that is because there is some vibrato he didn't correct.
rsp

Captain Caveman
01-18-2009, 04:02 AM
Here's how dark Cubase can go.......

http://www.beatindustries.de/c5_dark.jpg

I like. :)

Animus
01-18-2009, 04:16 AM
damn, they really let you change it on this one.

LEX
01-18-2009, 04:16 AM
by the way, apart from the freedom of speech etc......and the whole tie off relaxed vibe, just the allowing of inclusion of attachments in this forum makes it a great place to be..
thanks mods/founder

rsp

Right! It is more than that. This is a forum FOR the users by the users!

Collectively, we can build a community that teaches, troubleshoots and collects bugs, tips and tricks, and other things we can all share and view.

LEX

musicpete
01-18-2009, 08:53 AM
I must say, I am impressed. For the first time since SX3 the Steinies seem to have delivered! I guess I'll shell out for the grace period upgrade from C4....

I like the new look, I like the batch export features (no more hours and hours of exporting stems....) amongst others.

Any word on the new "VST expression" features? How does it work in real life? Is it easy to set up with VSL, QLSO, Kontakt 2/3 libraries etc? That's what interests me most, since those countless keyswitches are driving me mad!

zvenx
01-18-2009, 10:31 AM
oh Pål I have yet another question :-)..

One of the limitations of track presets in seq 4 for me was that you couldnt' use it to save a set of group channels or fx channels. It was great that you could configure a set of audio channels and save all of them as one track preset, but you couldn't do that for a set of group channels (or even one group channel) or a set of fx channels (or even one fx channel)..... Has this changed in Cubase 5?
thanks
rsp

TAFKAT
01-18-2009, 10:47 AM
Here's how dark Cubase can go.......

Hey Cap,

Thats cool , especially for those using darker themes.., looks a lot like one of the Reaper themes I use now..:rotfl:

One question, who's site did you score the screenie off, and also just a quick suggestion , attaching a picture that big totally throws the forum formatting out, always better to scale back the size IMO.

Audiocave
01-18-2009, 11:25 AM
One of the limitations of track presets in seq 4 for me was that you couldnt' use it to save a set of group channels or fx channels. It was great that you could configure a set of audio channels and save all of them as one track preset, but you couldn't do that for a set of group channels (or even one group channel) or a set of fx channels (or even one fx channel)..... Has this changed in Cubase 5?
thanks
rsp

You can do that in C4 and even SX I think. XML track archives. Groups, FX whatever. You can't "apply" it to an existing track but you can load and then copy/paste I suppose.

But yeah, doing it directly on the track for any class would be nice.

TerryG
01-18-2009, 01:58 PM
I don't recognize any standard Windows OS with an orange Start button and black gradient window frames... looks like an aftermarket "windowscreen" app in Captain Caveman's posted image, unless this is what Vista looks like if you turn off Aero...

So, in terms of the "dark" look shown above, your results may vary.

Animus
01-18-2009, 04:05 PM
I must say, I am impressed. For the first time since SX3 the Steinies seem to have delivered! I guess I'll shell out for the grace period upgrade from C4....

I like the new look, I like the batch export features (no more hours and hours of exporting stems....) amongst others.

Any word on the new "VST expression" features? How does it work in real life? Is it easy to set up with VSL, QLSO, Kontakt 2/3 libraries etc? That's what interests me most, since those countless keyswitches are driving me mad!

I need to read the manual on the Expression thing. I too am interested in that. I couldn't tell from the presentation what was up. Does it only work with VST3? Do the sample libraries have to be made especially for it? THey did say something about assigning CC numbers to Expression. Does that mean you can assign keyswitches too?

Animus
01-18-2009, 04:05 PM
Can someone attached a screenie of the mixer? default style.

TAFKAT
01-18-2009, 04:06 PM
I don't recognize any standard Windows OS with an orange Start button and black gradient window frames... looks like an aftermarket "windowscreen" app in Captain Caveman's posted image, unless this is what Vista looks like if you turn off Aero...

Its the standard official Microsoft Zune theme, official in that it does not need any third party or patched .dll to be applied...

@ Cap,

You didn't answer the question, who's site did you pull that Large screen grab off. ?

Sound Drifter
01-18-2009, 04:14 PM
Its the standard official Microsoft Zune theme, official in that it does not need any third party or patched .dll to be applied...

@ Cap,

You didn't answer the question, who's site did you pull that Large screen grab off. ?


It came from here:

http://cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=110401&sid=d6fc75997dcef0e13a6b2768b4b2bee3

TerryG
01-18-2009, 06:05 PM
Its the standard official Microsoft Zune theme, official in that it does not need any third party or patched .dll to be applied...

Thanks... definitely cooler than any standard XP option.

zvenx
01-18-2009, 06:46 PM
@ Cap,

You didn't answer the question, who's site did you pull that Large screen grab off. ?

translation: are you a beta tester? :-)
rsp

TAFKAT
01-18-2009, 06:59 PM
translation: are you a beta tester? :-)
rsp

Hmmm, I need to practice my Diagonalese more, was it really that obvious.. ? :icon_eek3:

zvenx
01-18-2009, 07:11 PM
lollll. ah yes it was vin...
rsp