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TAFKAT
03-15-2010, 01:56 AM
Hey All,

Anyone know who has taken over the re-authorisations for Giga3 since Tascam left the building ?

I have a clients older Giga system that went down and on recovering the system with some needed componants of course Giga's copy protection has kicked in, wiped the authorisation .

Thanks

Daryl
03-15-2010, 06:06 AM
Tascam was sending out re-authorisations until the end of last year, but I don't know whether or not they still are. Time to leave the sinking ship, methinks, and try out G-player.

D

paulwr
03-15-2010, 01:47 PM
Tascam was sending out re-authorisations until the end of last year, but I don't know whether or not they still are. Time to leave the sinking ship, methinks, and try out G-player.

D

I've been thinking about doing that. I'd triple or more the output of that old slave if it works well. Do you use it? comments on how effective it is? I have about a hundred gig of old samples that actually contain a lot of usable instruments.

I'm willing to try the demo but would like have an idea of viability before I do it.

Thanks,
-Paul

TAFKAT
03-15-2010, 04:14 PM
G-Player is not an option unfortunately..

This client has used and trusted G.S for many years, the slaves I have built for him over the years have worked flawlessly and his library / templates for G.S are quite extensive and is used daily.

He also has a VSL slave , but the G.S systems are still a staple.

Personally I hate it with a passion , sure I built many rock solid G.S systems over the years , but that nightmare with the copy protection pinging hardware at ring zero and locking the app /system on boot over versions of Seagate HD's I uncovered some years back was the straw that broke it for me. There was no support and acknowledgement from Tascam/ Giga devs , they simply hid under a rock. This system is now giving me lockups on G.S boots , wiped authorisations, etc, because of the hardware changes. I swapped a PSU, board and system HD. Its the system HD change that has triggered it, and has reminded me why I happily wiped it years ago.

Unfortunately I still need to navigate the crap to get this clients system back up..

I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

Daryl
03-15-2010, 04:54 PM
I've been thinking about doing that. I'd triple or more the output of that old slave if it works well. Do you use it? comments on how effective it is? I have about a hundred gig of old samples that actually contain a lot of usable instruments.

-Paul
I've not used it, as I moved on from Giga 4 or 5 years ago (and the only stuff that wouldn't translate was the Performance stuff from VSL), but I do know a couple of people who are using it, and they say that not only can they load far more than they ever could with Giga, but it is also more stable.

D

Daryl
03-15-2010, 04:56 PM
G-Player is not an option unfortunately..

This client has used and trusted G.S for many years, the slaves I have built for him over the years have worked flawlessly and his library / templates for G.S are quite extensive and is used daily.

He should be able to lock and load with G-Player. Getting his Giga slaves up and running is only putting a band-aid on a corpse, IMO.

D

dementedchord
03-15-2010, 05:01 PM
seems i remember reading somewhere that garritan bought up the giga tech...

Daryl
03-15-2010, 05:16 PM
seems i remember reading somewhere that garritan bought up the giga tech...
Yep, but that is for use in his own new products; nothing to do with Gigastudio or even previous products.

D

TAFKAT
03-15-2010, 07:18 PM
He should be able to lock and load with G-Player. Getting his Giga slaves up and running is only putting a band-aid on a corpse, IMO.

D

LOL, I agree.., but................ , for now its the preferred option.

TAFKAT
03-15-2010, 07:42 PM
Quick Update,

Found a reference online that deleting 2 files from the Giga install folder , SetupEx.exe and cks.exe , would help with the freezing caused by the re-authorisation issues.

Once I deleted those files I was able to get past the freezing on G.S application launch and managed to then re-authorise the application.

This saga now over, and I am super happy to see the back of this system, and hopefully never have to deal with G.S again

I pity Garratan associating themselves with this thing..

TAFKAT
03-15-2010, 09:47 PM
Just had a closer look at G-Player , specs look great as long as it delivers and is stable.

Might be time to dust off my old Giga Libraries , I have a stack here I haven't used in years , and it will definitely be an option in future for clients insisting on using the Giga libaries on new systems, as there is no way I would install Gigastudio on a current system..

Thanks for heads up.. :-)

Daryl
03-16-2010, 05:43 AM
I certainly think that G-Player is worth a shot, although as i said before, the only problems i had with converting to Kontakt was with the VSL Performance elements. Everything else was pretty easy.

D

TAFKAT
03-16-2010, 04:42 PM
I hear ya re G-Player, definitely going to check it out.

Just to put a final cherry on this G.S saga , and to highlight to those reading in that haven't used it, just how intrusive the copy protection is.

The system made it back to the clients studio yesterday afternoon. The only difference from my workbench to the studio was a different mouse/keyboard and LCD monitor, but G.S still kicked up about hardware changes and although it didn't trip the C.P thankfully, it halted the app on boot warning of detected changes, and asked whether to boot in diagnostic mode. I mean WTF, a resolution change and input devices was enough for the C.P to flag changes. Again this points to the over intrusive ring zero calls this application runs at.

Garritan can have it.. !

G-Player all the way from here on in...

TAFKAT
03-19-2010, 06:23 AM
.. well just to keep the fire burning a little longer on this saga..

The reconfigured rig lasted 2 days before Gigastudio decided to throw in a curve ball, again freezing on application launch. No changes to system, even reinstalling the recovery image of the final config that worked didn't resolve it. Installed G-Player, and absolutely no problem at all, however G-Player has one glaring omission that makes it unsuitable as a replacement in this configuration - It does not read Giga Performance data, and the client has volumes of performance patches saved - Fail.

Navigated all sample libraries and performances to a second system that had Giga 3 as a backup and dragged the offending system back to the workbench. Simply swapping the system HD that I had changed previously to another revision HD of a different capacity using the same recovery image - apart from tripping the authorisation again, has resolved the freezing. Talk about a convoluted PITA.

If only G-Player would import Giga Performance data, we would then jump ship in a heart beat.. :-(

nikki-k
03-20-2010, 05:43 PM
Wow. I still have my NFR G3 sitting here from working with *Tascam*. Since coming back to W7 from Mac, I was tempted to install it (or use it for firewood)... kinda glad I did not.

BTW- yet another prime example of, "What do I do if my *protected* software devs go belly up or simply sell due to disinterest, etc?" Even though my copy is an NFR and unused, I still worked for what I have. Waves pounded sand up me bum too... think I have learned my lesson tho... lol...

TAFKAT
03-20-2010, 07:00 PM
Hey Nikki,

Seeing you don't have any performance data to deal with, I would seriously suggest G-Player over GS3 , who knows what minefields it will throw up on current hardware.. :-(

There are some great libraries out there for Giga that are usable, despite the application itself being history.

nikki-k
03-21-2010, 03:42 PM
thx- looking at it. I have gigs and gigs of Giga. So far, simply imported what I needed as needed to Kontakt. Not perfect, but neither was Giga ;) G-Player does look sweet...