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Rhino
02-25-2010, 06:39 PM
Don't know about you, but I'm getting more and more annoyed by lots of little inconsistencies and oversights in Cubase. Each one isolated is negligible, together they add up ...
Most of them should be easy to fix without breaking other stuff.

A very incomplete list, no particular order, please comment and add :
- export audio mixdown, filename gets suggested correctly for the 1st project in a session, not for the following ones :eusa_wall:
- export audio mixdown, suggested ID tag should match file name :eusa_wall:
- VST connections, why on earth can you not define a preset that autoloads with every new project ? I can't be the only one with a constant I/O configuration :eusa_wall:
- workspaces, it's been discussed before, but why oh why can't I have the option of a "master" set of workspaces overriding project workspaces ?:eusa_wall:
Imagine changing your monitor setup, been there done that.
Still in the process of transferring workspaces for every old project version I happen to load, no end in sight.
And then, when opening a project not started on my machine I'd like to have my standard set of workspaces without further actions ...
Well, I took the easy way out and fixed this issue by convincing my main partners in crime to upgrade to the same monitor setup I use. :icon_cool:
- vstpresets, 'nuff said :eusa_wall:
- Generic Remote, the completely braindead handling of the "save" and "apply" equivalents :eusa_wall:
- why for G's sake can't I load a vmx made in an audio channel into a group for example ? :eusa_wall:
Most if not all settings should translate 1:1, in case of conflicts a simple message "not all settings might be applied, do you want to proceed ?" would be enough
- generally speaking I'd love (read: desperately need) to see more standard Windows behaviour, especially regarding multiple selections
One small example out of a million :
Select multiple mixer channels, colourize one, the others should follow, or why did I select several channels in the first place ? :eusa_wall:
Similar for parameter changes, with modifiers for relative and absolute changes, like Logic's been having for centuries ? :eusa_wall:

Only some examples, hope you get the general idea.
Cheers,
Rhino

paulwr
02-25-2010, 10:42 PM
I would settle for having the horizonal/vertical/song location reproduced correctly when going back into key-edit of a track. Been waiting for a month for Brian McGovern to get back to me on that..... whether it is a problem, or I still don't have preferences chosen correctly.

OR

since Cubase 3.1 for me (5.1 64bit now), I can't thoroughly overwrite controller data, even in Replace Midi record mode. It intersects the old recorded data and come out corrupted and unusable.

-Paul

ibmcgovern
03-04-2010, 04:56 PM
Hey Paul...

I need to apologize for the delay in responding to your question. To be completely honest, I lost track of this. Life happened, got in the way, etc.

Can you send me a detailed email about this to info@steinbergnorthamerica.com and I'll revisit this.

Again, I apologize for the delay.

Thanks.

B

LEX
03-04-2010, 05:43 PM
I would settle for having the horizonal/vertical/song location reproduced correctly when going back into key-edit of a track. Been waiting for a month for Brian McGovern to get back to me on that..... whether it is a problem, or I still don't have preferences chosen correctly.

OR

since Cubase 3.1 for me (5.1 64bit now), I can't thoroughly overwrite controller data, even in Replace Midi record mode. It intersects the old recorded data and come out corrupted and unusable.

-Paul

LOL!, Sorry seriously. A long time, ANNOYING problem. especially with replace Midi record mode. I had someone who I turned onto Nuendo a long time ago who was driven crazy because he couldn't overwrite the midi.

He's now using Logic.

I just delete the controller data now and rewrite it and pencil fix it. There is no other choice.

LEX

paulwr
03-04-2010, 06:56 PM
LOL!, Sorry seriously. A long time, ANNOYING problem. especially with replace Midi record mode. I had someone who I turned onto Nuendo a long time ago who was driven crazy because he couldn't overwrite the midi.

He's now using Logic.

I just delete the controller data now and rewrite it and pencil fix it. There is no other choice.

LEX

Yea, IT ISN'T FUNNY!!!!!!

9 out of 10 times I use the drawing tool. I fear at this point if I fathered a child they would have a cupped hand where the mouse goes.............

-Paul

TAFKAT
03-04-2010, 07:22 PM
Hey Paul,

Can you please keep us up to date here in regards to any movement or resolutuion , its seems to me that its become a common practice for the reps to ask for the dialg to be taken offline so that its nicely tucked away out of sight of the general public , where is it is more easily dismissed and/or forgotten. That maybe a benefit to the Steini spin machine, but not to the end users..

Thanks.

paulwr
03-04-2010, 11:27 PM
LOL!, Sorry seriously. A long time, ANNOYING problem. especially with replace Midi record mode. I had someone who I turned onto Nuendo a long time ago who was driven crazy because he couldn't overwrite the midi.

He's now using Logic.

I just delete the controller data now and rewrite it and pencil fix it. There is no other choice.

LEX

Also, among many other things, this is one that could benifit from some setting up some custom scripts. I've really got to get some additional hardware for quickly triggering a multitude of short cuts and macros/scripts. Probably have to have some of them controlled at the Windows level to accomplish.

-Paul

Animus
03-09-2010, 12:58 PM
Hey Paul,

Can you please keep us up to date here in regards to any movement or resolutuion , its seems to me that its become a common practice for the reps to ask for the dialg to be taken offline so that its nicely tucked away out of sight of the general public , where is it is more easily dismissed and/or forgotten. That maybe a benefit to the Steini spin machine, but not to the end users..

Thanks.

kind of makes you go hmmmm.

Animus
03-09-2010, 01:00 PM
Don't know about you, but I'm getting more and more annoyed by lots of little inconsistencies and oversights in Cubase. Each one isolated is negligible, together they add up ...
Most of them should be easy to fix without breaking other stuff.

A very incomplete list, no particular order, please comment and add :
- export audio mixdown, filename gets suggested correctly for the 1st project in a session, not for the following ones :eusa_wall:
- export audio mixdown, suggested ID tag should match file name :eusa_wall:
- VST connections, why on earth can you not define a preset that autoloads with every new project ? I can't be the only one with a constant I/O configuration :eusa_wall:
- workspaces, it's been discussed before, but why oh why can't I have the option of a "master" set of workspaces overriding project workspaces ?:eusa_wall:
Imagine changing your monitor setup, been there done that.
Still in the process of transferring workspaces for every old project version I happen to load, no end in sight.
And then, when opening a project not started on my machine I'd like to have my standard set of workspaces without further actions ...
Well, I took the easy way out and fixed this issue by convincing my main partners in crime to upgrade to the same monitor setup I use. :icon_cool:
- vstpresets, 'nuff said :eusa_wall:
- Generic Remote, the completely braindead handling of the "save" and "apply" equivalents :eusa_wall:
- why for G's sake can't I load a vmx made in an audio channel into a group for example ? :eusa_wall:
Most if not all settings should translate 1:1, in case of conflicts a simple message "not all settings might be applied, do you want to proceed ?" would be enough
- generally speaking I'd love (read: desperately need) to see more standard Windows behaviour, especially regarding multiple selections
One small example out of a million :
Select multiple mixer channels, colourize one, the others should follow, or why did I select several channels in the first place ? :eusa_wall:
Similar for parameter changes, with modifiers for relative and absolute changes, like Logic's been having for centuries ? :eusa_wall:

Only some examples, hope you get the general idea.
Cheers,
Rhino

Great list. I am annoyed by most of those myself.

The whole vmx schema is totally broken. Half the time when I try and save a out a channel and try to load it back in the same type channel it will give me the freaking mismatch error. wtf?

paulwr
03-10-2010, 06:05 PM
LOL!, Sorry seriously. A long time, ANNOYING problem. especially with replace Midi record mode. I had someone who I turned onto Nuendo a long time ago who was driven crazy because he couldn't overwrite the midi.

He's now using Logic.

I just delete the controller data now and rewrite it and pencil fix it. There is no other choice.

LEX

Brian McGovern an then the next day Greg Ondo each spent over a half hour with me on the phone to help me get through some issues. This first one I think many may welcome the fix for: Overwriting controller data in the key editor. If you have trouble with that, in Cubase 5.1 go the preferences>Record>Midi and in the dropdown box for "Replace Recording in Editors" choose controller. Might work with the 'All' choice as well.

Also, others may not have this exact issue, but..... other odd things after an upgrade may be fixable with this.....
I had big problems with going into the key editor and not have song position, or vertical or horizontal settings stay the same. It turns out the program on installation tries to bring across settings from the old program version, and sometimes important things get adversely affected in that process. If you remove your Cubase application folder (User>User Name>Application Data/Roaming>Steinberg>Cubase5 and also your older version if it is still loaded. .. just take those folders over to the desktop (while Cubase is closed, or course) so Cubase can't see them. Then restart Cubase and it will build fresh default data. Then try pulling over your templates/presets separately. This worked like a charm for me. Otherwise, you may have to do some manual rebuilding of some things.

Anyway, it was good to get this help. My third issue is not solved as yet, but might be handled in the next update.
That is in the key editor and I think elsewhere, moving a cc control node with the mouse or numeric value during play does not change the real time performance, though it used to in Cubase 3.1 (don't know about ver 4) To hear the changes, you must replay the section. So that shortcut to mixing/adjusting things is without instant audio feedback at the moment. I use that a lot, so hope it does get addressed soon.

-Paul

ibmcgovern
03-11-2010, 05:17 PM
Thanks Paul. Glad would could figure some of this out and we are continuing to look into the 3rd topic. Talking live on the phone beats any forum any day.

Guys (and any gals out there)... I acknowledged I dropped the ball unfortunately. It was brought back to my attention and onward we go. I don't request offline communication to hide, that's not my style. My method is to be effective the best way I can. I am sorry, I don't know about you.... but I am not like Twitter, my hands get full with other responsibilities from time to time and I cannot post every single move. Just how it is and the best I can do.

As you can see, when a resolve is found, then we can post for all to see. If I can be of assistance, info@steinbergnorthamerica.com. Or, drop me your number and I'll ring you.

Have a great day.

Rhino
03-13-2010, 12:14 PM
Great list. I am annoyed by most of those myself.

The whole vmx schema is totally broken. Half the time when I try and save a out a channel and try to load it back in the same type channel it will give me the freaking mismatch error. wtf?

Thanks, Animus !
vmx ... :icon_rolleyes:
To me these seemingly small issues / niggles are a bigger deal than some well known popular requests, I've found ways to work around most of the bigger deficiencies but these little suckers keep bothering me constantly
The list could be much longer, depending on everybody's workflow.

Two more :
- I want a drum map pulldown menu that has my 10 or so standard drum maps available directly in the inspector from the get go
- with C5 they changed the selection behaviour in the drum editor for the worse - would like to get back the old behaviour.

Ymmv, of course,
Cheers,
Rhino