The Annoying Quirks/Fix-it-in-a-lunchtime Thread

[Captain Caveman]

1. Delete key shouldn't delete tracks... ever.

2. Select all in tracks should work with folder tracks.

3. Hide Automation key command should work when an automation track is selected for a track, we shouldn't have to select "mother" track.

[Ade]

Are you on Cubase?
The Delete functions differently.
On Nuendo one cannot delete tracks with the Delete key.... unless one specifically assigns a key command. That's a Post Pro function and you have to be very clever to use it. ;)

[Captain Caveman]

Are you on Cubase?
The Delete functions differently.
On Nuendo one cannot delete tracks with the Delete key.... unless one specifically assigns a key command. That's a Post Pro function and you have to be very clever to use it. ;)

Are you pulling my leg about Post thing and clever doo-dah, or the whole thing in that you actually can't do this in Nuendo?

:confused:

[Ade]

Sorry - I'll try to check irony at the door.
No - I was trying to tell you the facts in a smart ass way, is what I was doing.
Nuendo can be config'd - and is config'd - as a default to not delete tracks with the delete key. The default is pulling down a menu and specifically actioning the delete selected tracks command.
I really do not know why the option is not available to Cubase users.
There may be a way to get around this in Cubase using the PLE.
What you need to do is disengage the delete command in the key commands menu and reinstate to run on the macro that you will make for delete duties.
You will need to set up (I'm winging it here.. there may be more) a two stage macro which calls a PLE and LE preset. The PLE will be responsible for deleting events on the project window and the LE will be responsible for midi events when an editor is open. If you're lost as to how to set this up, Animus just volunteered.

[Captain Caveman]

That is unbelievable. This is one of the biggest bugbears with Cubase, you press delete and need to check to see the event/part actually deleted or some track disappeared altogether.

There have been many, many threads about this on C.net. The positive thing is that it is great to have a combined forum!!

It would be fantastic if Animus could carry out the deed. :)

:cool:

[Animus]

Honestly I like the feature. Usually the approach of just deleting tracks usually works out best for my mixes. :)

[Captain Caveman]

Honestly I like the feature. Usually the approach of just deleting tracks usually works out best for my mixes. :)

Yeah, if you could the Delete key to get the PLE to scan for all VSTis and then put them and Cubase up onto Ebay it would probably be more productive in the long run for me too. :)

[RiffWraith]

Actually, I think the delete key should delete the track if it is selected. After all, it is a delete key. http://images.zaazu.com/img/idea-idea-animated-animation-000274-large.gif

[BJF]

Actually, I think the delete key should delete the track if it is selected. After all, it is a delete key.

Maybe ctrl+delete should delete tracks, so that you wouldn't hit it accidently.

B

[psvennevig]

You can change the keycommand for this in Cubase as well.
I think the reason its there is an old keycommand from Cubase VST.

So if U don't like it, change it..

P

[Captain Caveman]

You can change the keycommand for this in Cubase as well.
I think the reason its there is an old keycommand from Cubase VST.

So if U don't like it, change it..

P

Changing the Delete key from Delete to doing nothing OBVIOUSLY won't accomplish anything, apart from rendering the Delete key useless. The issue here is being able to use the Delete key for deleting anything apart from Tracks.

There is a preference in Nuendo so I am not tripping. Maybe U are though.

:confused:

[Ade]

Key commands - Project>Remove Track

But you still need to set up something to remove other events - without removing tracks.
So - back to plan A I think....

[Captain Caveman]

Key commands - Project>Remove Track

But you still need to set up something to remove other events - without removing tracks.
So - back to plan A I think....

That's the thing, an option is there (Ctrl+Shift+Del for example) to assign a keuycommand to delete tracks, but the Delete key functionality can't be changed in Cubase.

I will be very impressed if someone can come up with a PLE/LE macro to do this. It is very silly that Cubase can't do this but Nuendo can.

[Ade]

http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/13/07/88/69/delsel10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=4&u=13078869)
http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/13/07/88/69/delmid10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=5&u=13078869)
http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/13/07/88/69/delsel11.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=6&u=13078869)
http://i77.servimg.com/u/f77/13/07/88/69/macros10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=7&u=13078869)

[Ade]

There's a limit of 5 images per post and the forum saw text as another image... so here's the scoop:
Make the PLE's and the LE as shown above.
Make the macros as shown.
Assign the Super Delete or whatever name you give the macro to the delete key or your choice of key(s)
Assign the EIP macro to the key command currently being used by your setup.
So far.. seems bulletproof.

[Animus]

There's a limit of 5 images per post and the forum saw text as another image... so here's the scoop:
Make the PLE's and the LE as shown above.
Make the macros as shown.
Assign the Super Delete or whatever name you give the macro to the delete key or your choice of key(s)
Assign the EIP macro to the key command currently being used by your setup.
So far.. seems bulletproof.


sorry about the 5 image limit. I will wait til messianic complains and then change that setting.


:)

[Animus]

Hope I'm not upsetting anyone, I just want to make it better.

It's a good piece of forum software this, there are many things it can do and ways it can be used to improve the overall forum experience.

Regards all

I was just busting your balls mate. Just teasing ya. :)

[TerryG]

sorry about the 5 image limit. I will wait til messianic complains and then change that setting.
:)
:D

That was actually one of the first things about this forum that I stumbled upon when I was obsessing on the logo mission... the 5 image limit. Brutal! ;)

[Animus]

You think 10 is enough?

[Ade]

Depends how demanding you lot get. :)

[Animus]

Depends how demanding you lot get. :)


We do have a tough crowd. :)

[messianic]

..and what about the file size limit, surely that is absurd in this day and age..

I wanted to upload a PDF file about DTS for the benefit of the forum community.

[TAFKAT]

..and what about the file size limit, surely that is absurd in this day and age..

Ohh for farks sake.. !!

Considering most forums do not even allow embedded pictures at all, you have got to be kidding me.. , all this belly aching is starting to get a little beyond a joke..

Don't you have something better to do.. !

[TerryG]

You think 10 is enough?

Well, since my images simply display the image linked from my own server...


Actually, I don't give a damn about any forum limitations. It is what it is.
We're here to exchange information, not whine about the implementation choices made by those providing the free resource. :cool:

[TerryG]

Messianic, you have two choices:

1. Post a link to wherever the PDF is that you've found, assuming it's on the Internet.

2. Copy the PDF to your own server and post a link for everyone.

PDF's can be 48K or 48MEG... expecting to host it here is unrealistic.

[Animus]

Hi messianic,

I upped the pdf size limit just for you but we want to see that DTS pdf uploaded pronto. We got plenty of hosted disk space so its not that much of an issue.

[messianic]

Thank you very much Stacy, it is always appreciated the manner in which you conduct this forum.

I have included the file here at the end of this discussion:

http://cubendo.com/showthread.php?t=9

I have no idea how the subject went from being about "solo/mute" to DTS but hey, that's what I like about this place the threads always start anew and give others' a chance to have their say without massive long winded threads with people all competing for "exposure".

Anyway, my regards to everyone and I hope we can all have a pleasant time here.

[TerryG]

OK, cool, so now everyone who happens to come to read this entire thread can catch a link that takes them to the first page of a two page thread, where they can then forward themselves to the second page, scroll down, click on a link that opens another login page, log in, and then get thanked for logging in, and then download a file on DTS that they never would have found otherwise!

That's totally awesome.

Or, they could just type DTS-HD Audio into Google.

Or, they could click this link:

http://www.dts.com/DownloadDocument.aspx?q=a7beda1e-cfe6-4ca4-b6b2-cda9554bb6a5

Fitting for a thread titled : "The Annoying Quirks..." ;)

[Ade]

OK - there is one type of event which does not play ball with the PLE... Folder parts.
Suggest assigning Shift + Delete/Backspace to the regular Delete function. That gives instant access to track deletion or any selected event - so not as 'safe' as the macro setup posted earlier. Keep the macro assigned to Delete/Backspace for all other 'trackproof' purposes.

[Captain Caveman]

There's a limit of 5 images per post and the forum saw text as another image... so here's the scoop:
Make the PLE's and the LE as shown above.
Make the macros as shown.
Assign the Super Delete or whatever name you give the macro to the delete key or your choice of key(s)
Assign the EIP macro to the key command currently being used by your setup.
So far.. seems bulletproof.

That's marvellous Ade, thanks very much for putting those together and testing it out. One thing I had to add was another PLE preset for Delete Audio Events and now everything is working out nicely.

Delete key re-assigned, good work!

:)

[Bill etc]

I use my own key command for deleting tracks in both Cubase and Nuendo. It's easy to set up and use, and IMO makes it less likely to delete tracks accidentally.

Regards,
Bill

[Captain Caveman]

I use my own key command for deleting tracks in both Cubase and Nuendo. It's easy to set up and use, and IMO makes it less likely to delete tracks accidentally.

Regards,
Bill

The issue with assigning a keycommand to Project/Remove Track in Cubase at least is that it doesn't disconnect the Remove Track functionality from the Edit/Delete keycommand. The PLE/LE macros that Ade has rustled up means that a seperate keycommand can be used exclusively for Remove Track now.

It's, as they say, "all good". :)

[Ade]

One thing I had to add was another PLE preset for Delete Audio Events
Drat and double drat! :o
Missed that audio parts and events needed individual treatment.
Glad it's working for you.
For those that need specifics, add this PLE into the Super Delete Macro:

http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/13/07/88/69/delaud10.jpg (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=8&u=13078869)

[dubwise]

or you can just Audio as an additional OR in your Delete Event PLE, no?

This is awesome. I moved down from Nuendo to Cubase between 3 & 4,
and it continues to get closer and closer to meeting all my needs.
I'd never looked at the Logical Editors or the macros capability.

Poking around in there I also found Delete Empty Tracks,
which is really what I want when I want to delete tracks.
Finally a way to close a track without also closing the track editor.

Thank you, one and all.

I like the new forum.

[Ade]

or you can just Audio as an additional OR in your Delete Event PLE, no?



You can. Apart from missing the required command, there was method to the madness. I compartmentalized the PLEs because they can be presented in screen shots more easily. (No need to scroll.)
Also, you can find further uses for these more modular macros.

[dubwise]

Hmm, still need a way to delete files from the pool.