Windows 7 issues [Archive]

08-16-2009, 10:04 PM

First issue: it screwed up my Vista install saying the key was no longer valid. A known problem. Microsoft itself does not seem to have a definitive answer for this from what I found. A major problem if you're not installing an upgrade version, and I was not notified that this RC was an upgrade release.

Second issue: every shutdown generated a blue screen and left the SATA controller in an unknown or unstable state, requiring a complete shutdown and cold reboot to remedy.

Issue #2 is a show stopper. Every time it happened, it left broken indexes and files in it's wake, requiring a chkdsk run through on every boot and spewing forth multiple file corruption errors. I cannot believe they let this one slip through. As to whether it's a known issue, I don't care. It's a show stopper. I'm not that eager to become Microsoft's alpha tester. I already have a 64 bit solution that works well.

I restored from image and everything is almost back to fully operational. Vista seems to be feeling some ills still and boot up is taking a lot longer than it should. I have to troubleshoot this.

Windows 7 is very pretty. But, like a dumb blonde, she's nice for a row between the sheets, but not up to having an intelligent conversation.

Andrew J

08-16-2009, 10:13 PM

08-16-2009, 10:24 PM

Sorry to hear that D. I haven't seen that issue here with the MSDN RTM version. Do the system or application event logs give you a hint as to what's leading to the BSOD?

My only problems with Win7 so far are (A) having to change to legacy 1394 driver to get my FF800 to work, and (B) not having a driver for my WLAN card. Will shortly be trying out powerline ethernet to get around that (and goodbye to my DPC latency issues too I hope).

No hints at all. It's not a blue screen I've seen before, either. Some service failure. But I'm guessing it's the VDS because it leaves the hardware SATA controller in an unstable state: IOW it won't reboot after this happens without a cold hard shutdown.

Too bad because everything else seemed to be working okay. I'm sure they will have it fixed by the time SP2 rolls around... :eusa_whistle:

TAFKAT

08-17-2009, 12:03 AM

Hey D,

I have been doing extensive testing on Win 7 RC and RTM on my i7 system, and have not had any issues what so ever in regards to SATA controllers , or any hardware for that matter.

What SATA controller is it, the standard ICH10 or a 3rd party ?

Interesting about the Vista partition, I was wondering why my Vista 64 install starting bitching it was non genuine and needed to be reactivated , not that I really care too much as the Vista install is not one that I use for anything any more.

The Bluescreen should be easy enough to trace if you a memory dump, and can be analysed by the Debugging Tools ( as long as the symbols are available )

If you are still experiencing issues with sluggishness in Vista, boot times, I'd suggest you have some other gremlins related to HD/controllers in the works.

08-17-2009, 12:15 AM

What SATA controller is it, the standard ICH10 or a 3rd party ?

Standard ICH10 controller. With the now deleted Win7 partition, I was tri-booting, although that should not have any bearing.

Interesting about the Vista partition, I was wondering why my Vista 64 install starting bitching it was non genuine and needed to be reactivated , not that I really care too much as the Vista install is not one that I use for anything any more.

Yeah, a whole bunch of pages came up when I typed the problem into search. Apparently an ongoing issue. I even restored the Vista partition hoping it would go away, but it did not. Of course, it did go away once I did a full image restore.

The Bluescreen should be easy enough to trace if you a memory dump, and can be analysed by the Debugging Tools ( as long as the symbols are available )

If you are still experiencing issues with sluggishness in Vista, boot times, I'd suggest you have some other gremlins related to HD/controllers in the works.

The dump is gone as I trashed the partition. I don't have the time right now to debug this. I have no problems in my xp64 partition, so I presume that the problem may be with a newer (or just a different) driver. I(t's also possible that the Win7 install, which had corrupted another drive, was also responsible for possibly corrupting this one. I'll have to look at the Event log and possibly also run a scan of this drive for errors.

TAFKAT

08-17-2009, 02:46 AM

Hey D,

Its is strange that Win 7 could have corrupted other installs, I am currently Quad booting here on the Windows HD , XPSP3, Win7 RC 32, Win7 RTM 64 , Vista 64.

The Win7 32 is a waste of time as the memory footprint is still too large even tho its 1/2 Vista , so that partition is about to get blown , Vista I can live without and won't bother even fixing, so I'll just install a second Win7 RTM for some GUI customising ( I hate the standard visual styles, right now zeroing in a a black , minimal basic VS for Win7 ), tweaking / hacking / experimenting.

I already have a good bag of tricks, but I'll play them close to my chest for now... :wink:

BTW: I did an XPx64 install over the weekend for a client running one of my Dual Quad Xeons, and it reminded me just how much better it felt than Vista or Win7 . XPx64 to me is still the best 64 bit O.S M.S ever released for DAW use, pity the devs never officially supported it.

08-17-2009, 06:25 PM

Well, Vista is booting fine now. It was only the initial boot after image restore that had it slowed to a crawl. I only use Vista for email & gaming anyway.

I agree vis-a-vis xp64 - it is IMHO the best 64 bit DAW platform. It is indeed a shame that it never received the support it deserves, although honestly the only problem I've had with it is regarding the UPS service.

Having been involved in software product development, I have seen this before. Existing platforms, regardless of quality or number of users, are always pushed aside by the holier-than-thou architects of new systems and schemes. It's all a matter of capitalism.