LA Scoring Strings on sale

[Thonex]

On sale for $999...listen to new demos and read about it here:

www.audiobro.com

Cheers,

Andrew K

[LEX]

Im going to kill that bug! Awesome. ALot of work, but well worth the wait.

LEX

[Andrew J]

Congratulations Andrew, sounds fantastic!

[Animus]

Sounds awesome Andrew. The legato stuff sounds amazing.

[paulwr]

The A.R.T. scripting function alone would be worth the price to me................... damn................. EWQL better have something great for their Hollywood Strings. No doubt they will have other areas covered better, and I'll have to purchase both.............damn............

[paulwr]

noticed, though..... no fast runs shown. Hardest thing to do realistically.

-Paul

[Gary Glitter]

I'm confused. Why are you all congratulating Thonex? Did he create this?

[paulwr]

....... I wondered that, too. And now I think he did.

Hey, Andrew K, are you THE Andrew K? VERY nice soundware, not to mention your composer website...... you have some great work posted.

-Paul

[Thonex]

....... I wondered that, too. And now I think he did.

Hey, Andrew K, are you THE Andrew K? VERY nice soundware, not to mention your composer website...... you have some great work posted.

-Paul

Yeah.. I'm Andrew K

Hehe.. :icon_lol: sorry about the confusion.

And thank you all for the kind words!!

All the best.

Andrew K

[Martini]

@Thonex

does the Kontakt script handles divisi automatically?
Does it use a large section when you play single notes,
and when you play a chord, can it distribute notes to separate divisi groups?

BTW, I own the whole VSL Cube and I think LASS sounds fantastic.
The sound of LA players is unmistakable.
looks like EastWest have announced their still-in-development product, just to hold your sales...

[paulwr]

@Thonex

does the Kontakt script handles divisi automatically?
Does it use a large section when you play single notes,
and when you play a chord, can it distribute notes to separate divisi groups?

BTW, I own the whole VSL Cube and I think LASS sounds fantastic.
The sound of LA players is unmistakable.
looks like EastWest have announced their still-in-development product, just to hold your sales...

You can read the manual on the website. It is pretty comprehensive.

-Paul

[Thonex]

@Thonex

does the Kontakt script handles divisi automatically?
Does it use a large section when you play single notes,
and when you play a chord, can it distribute notes to separate divisi groups?

BTW, I own the whole VSL Cube and I think LASS sounds fantastic.
The sound of LA players is unmistakable.
looks like EastWest have announced their still-in-development product, just to hold your sales...

No, you play the divisi in yourself. I've always found that for writing divisi parts, it sounded best when I played it in line by line. Also.. I'd hate to be the guy who codes an auto divisi algorithm. That would be one tough algorithm especially when you consider modern arranging and crossing voices.:icon_eek3:

Re: EW... yeah.. they approached me a few months ago to release LASS through EW... but they wanted it to be PLAY and I was already 98% done in Kontakt. ALso, LASS is like 5 libraries in 1: first chair, 1/4, 1/4, 1/2, Full. EW is 1/2 and 1/2.

CHeers,

Andrew K

[Animus]

Thought god it's not PLAY.

[Gary Glitter]

Yeah.. I'm Andrew K



Nice work. Very happy to be sharing the forum with someone of such high standing and excellence and no doubt handsomeness. (Can I get a "Andrew's best mate" price for this software please?)

[paulwr]

Thought god it's not PLAY.

+1 on that. Sure, Play has some great feature, but as a workhorse to drive monster templates...... I STILL have not setup my Platinum SO from EastWest that I got as free upgrade for when it first came out. I don't know any high end pro composers who have changed their templates over yet.

Overall, LASS sounds like it has a lot of potential. Andrew, how do the quick runs sound? Any techniques to get them better than EW or VI ?

[Thonex]

+1 on that. Sure, Play has some great feature, but as a workhorse to drive monster templates...... I STILL have not setup my Platinum SO from EastWest that I got as free upgrade for when it first came out. I don't know any high end pro composers who have changed their templates over yet.

Overall, LASS sounds like it has a lot of potential. Andrew, how do the quick runs sound? Any techniques to get them better than EW or VI ?

Hi,

Well... I'm a purist, so for quick runs I'd usually use actual runs. But insofar as legato patches trying to do runs, I think LASS will sound better than other libraries for the simple reason that if you stagger the divisis, they will sound more like a run "blur".

Cheers,

Andrew K

[RiffWraith]

Hi,

Well... I'm a purist, so for quick runs I'd usually use actual runs. But insofar as legato patches trying to do runs, I think LASS will sound better than other libraries for the simple reason that if you stagger the divisis, they will sound more like a run "blur".

Cheers,

Andrew K

Demo or it ain't so. :eusa_whistle: :pop_corn:

[LEX]

Nice work. Very happy to be sharing the forum with someone of such high standing and excellence and no doubt handsomeness. (Can I get a "Andrew's best mate" price for this software please?)

No, no. I get the "Andrew's Best Mate" deal, ;).

Especially if there is a mini in the future.

LEX

[Thonex]

No, no. I get the "Andrew's Best Mate" deal, ;).

Especially if there is a mini in the future.

LEX

you all be me mates!!!!:eusa_dance:

[Thonex]

I forgot to post that I added a bunch of new demos over a week ago.

http://audiobro.com/html/demos.html

Cheers,

Andrew K

[olamo]

Hi Andrew,

Congratulations! The demo's I listened to sounded really good.
As an "actual" string player ( ....as opposed to a virtual :D ), I'm very picky.

Will have a more thorough listen soon..

Have you considered to add a Sibelius soundset? Along with new tempo mapping, rewire and offline staff rendering it could be very exciting.

Same with Vst expressions in Cubase.. Why can't they all agree on a open format for articulations, expressions etc.? :doh-1:

Anyway, looking forward to check this out?
Glad you chose kontakt now that kontakt 3.5 is out and rock'in on my xp 64 Macbook pro.

Cheers,
Ola

[bartok29]

Yeah, I'm starting to lean in the LASS direction myself. I like the fact that one can change the size of the group based on preference.

[Thonex]

Hi Andrew,

Congratulations! The demo's I listened to sounded really good.
As an "actual" string player ( ....as opposed to a virtual :D ), I'm very picky.

Will have a more thorough listen soon..

Have you considered to add a Sibelius soundset? Along with new tempo mapping, rewire and offline staff rendering it could be very exciting.

Same with Vst expressions in Cubase.. Why can't they all agree on a open format for articulations, expressions etc.? :doh-1:

Anyway, looking forward to check this out?
Glad you chose kontakt now that kontakt 3.5 is out and rock'in on my xp 64 Macbook pro.

Cheers,
Ola

Hi There,

I've been contacted by one of the Sibelius sound set gurus... and that's something I will explore. It's been a little hectic for me the last few weeks because of the LASS launch, but when things settle down, I'll look into it.

I was also contacted by Steinberg regarding the VST Expression... but I'm still in Nuendo 3 LOL:icon_lol:

Thanks for your interest.

Cheers,

Andrew K

[Thonex]

Yeah, I'm starting to lean in the LASS direction myself. I like the fact that one can change the size of the group based on preference.

Yes... having control of the size of the section is very important in my opinion. But also, the divisi sections provide for more variation even when writing a unison line. You can stagger the different sections to simulate the laggards who always play late :wink:

[paulwr]

Andrew,

Good job with the new demos. Really helps a lot to hear things like the portamento/gliss and legato. Trills, too.

You've addressed so many of the elements missing in today's string libraries. Really, such a good job. If I decide on another major library purchase this year, your at the top of the list at this point.

Thanks,
-Paul

[bartok29]

Yeah I agree with Paul. I do wish EW's library was out now because I would like to compare the two before buying. I can scrape together funds for this but would love to hear a direct comparison. Luckily Cinematic Strings has released demos and it ain't in the same league at LASS to my ears so that's totally off the table. :eusa_whistle:

[Daryl]

Yeah I agree with Paul. I do wish EW's library was out now because I would like to compare the two before buying. I can scrape together funds for this but would love to hear a direct comparison. Luckily Cinematic Strings has released demos and it ain't in the same league at LASS to my ears so that's totally off the table. :eusa_whistle:

The EW library doesn't exist yet. They haven't even edited the recordings. We keep hearing hot air about the revolutionary new system they are going to use, but given how cr*p PLAY has turned out to be, I wouldn't put any money on it. Or save any money for it. I doubt you'll hear anything for a long time. the only reason they announced it was to try to stop people buying Thonex's library.

D

[bartok29]

The EW library doesn't exist yet. They haven't even edited the recordings. We keep hearing hot air about the revolutionary new system they are going to use, but given how cr*p PLAY has turned out to be, I wouldn't put any money on it. Or save any money for it. I doubt you'll hear anything for a long time. the only reason they announced it was to try to stop people buying Thonex's library.

D

I wouldn't say PLAY is crap but I don't find it optimized as much as Kontakt 3.5 which is AWESOME!

I will say that I do not care for their strings by and large- that's why I use Symphobia, Prime Sounds Session Strings and VSL for most of my mock-ups. Especially exposed sections- the staccato strings have an odd metallic sound to them in Platinum. But I do like their EWQLSO quite a bit by and large so I'm hopeful.

[paulwr]

Or save any money for it. I doubt you'll hear anything for a long time. the only reason they announced it was to try to stop people buying Thonex's library.

D

Yes, I think the final EW Hollywood Strings are FAR off, time-wise. While I expect they will be very good, I will not put off purchasing an existing great item in hopes their new one will be out soon. They brought out word of their synth product over a year ago, and haven't really mentioned it again, since. Soundware companies may make noise about their upcoming products, but we can't make any noise with it.

-Paul

[bartok29]

I have the PayPal page open and have been thinking and re-thinking pressing the "Buy" button........:eusa_wall:

[TAFKAT]

Do it... !! :D

[Martini]

just press the damn button already, you'll feel better.

[Animus]

Hope you haven't bought it yet! Didn't you hear members at Cubendo get free nfr copies? doh!

[bartok29]

just press the damn button already, you'll feel better.

Done. Thanks guys. :098:

[bartok29]

Hi There,

I've been contacted by one of the Sibelius sound set gurus... and that's something I will explore. It's been a little hectic for me the last few weeks because of the LASS launch, but when things settle down, I'll look into it.

I was also contacted by Steinberg regarding the VST Expression... but I'm still in Nuendo 3 LOL:icon_lol:

Thanks for your interest.

Cheers,

Andrew K

You must have been talking to Jon Loving then. He's Yoda when it comes to Sibelius sound sets.

p.s. Andrew, I dove in and bought your library. IN the end, the sound was just too good to pass up. And the fact that it's powered by Kontakt 3 which runs so lovely on my Mac Pro. :)

[TAFKAT]

Free NFR's... !!

Andrewwwwww, have you been holding out on me again ?? !!

[Thonex]

You must have been talking to Jon Loving then. He's Yoda when it comes to Sibelius sound sets.

p.s. Andrew, I dove in and bought your library. IN the end, the sound was just too good to pass up. And the fact that it's powered by Kontakt 3 which runs so lovely on my Mac Pro. :)

Thanks Bartok29!!!

Thanks for your support.

Just out of curiosity... are you running a Mac 8 core?

Thanks,

Andrew K

[LEX]

Wait, I thought it was a Kontakt 2 set?

Did you upgrade it to Kontakt 3?

LEX

[Thonex]

Wait, I thought it was a Kontakt 2 set?

Did you upgrade it to Kontakt 3?

LEX

NI is not releasing any new libraries in K2.

Since K3.5 memory boost and re-written DFD... K3.5 works much better for LASS than K2.

Cheers,

AK

[bartok29]

Thanks Bartok29!!!

Thanks for your support.

Just out of curiosity... are you running a Mac 8 core?

Thanks,

Andrew K

Nope- just the original quad core 2.66ghz processor
I know some more recent models are having difficulties reading the discs
hope I will not encounter that on mine :)

[olamo]

Just out of curiosity; how well does the library handle alternating of legato and staccato/spiccato quavers(or sixteenth) - say repeating figures of 3 legato in down-bow notes (where the last one is shorter to prepare the forthcoming staccato) + 1 staccato on the up-bow.

Not the most patient when it comes to midi programming ( that is why the addition of articulation maps ala soundsets is a blessing to me), I haven't been very successful creating this kind of figure without getting an entirely different sound on the last staccato quaver.

When it comes to runs, I always mask it with actual recordings like you suggest. Until now I have also done this in expressive legato phrases to provide the "inner glow" that is normally missing with sampled orchestration. It seems to me from the demo's that you achieved something new in this aspect.

Ola

[Thonex]

Just out of curiosity; how well does the library handle alternating of legato and staccato/spiccato quavers(or sixteenth) - say repeating figures of 3 legato in down-bow notes (where the last one is shorter to prepare the forthcoming staccato) + 1 staccato on the up-bow.

Not the most patient when it comes to midi programming ( that is why the addition of articulation maps ala soundsets is a blessing to me), I haven't been very successful creating this kind of figure without getting an entirely different sound on the last staccato quaver.

When it comes to runs, I always mask it with actual recordings like you suggest. Until now I have also done this in expressive legato phrases to provide the "inner glow" that is normally missing with sampled orchestration. It seems to me from the demo's that you achieved something new in this aspect.

Ola

Hi Olamo,

LASS does a good job of going between articulations, but as you said.. it can be tricky.

Perhaps you can upload an mp3 as an example of what you're going after.

Cheers,

AK

[Thonex]

Hi guys,

A New LASS Video demo is up.

Sorry it took so long to get this demo up. You can find it at the top of the demo section here:

http://audiobro.com/html/demos.html

This is the video version of the spoken A.R.T. demo.

There is a high resolution and medium resolution version.

Enjoy!

[paulwr]

Thanks for posting the link. VERY nice. You just have to remember to save the Kontakt setup on your slave to match your project so it is reproduce-able. I can appreciate your 'warning' at the end of the video.

-Paul

[LEX]

Thonex,

This is amazing.!!

This is a must have library for any composer. I doubt any of the other libraries out or coming out will have any where CLOSE to what this sounds like or can do.

Great work Andrew!

LEX